Michael Tallhamer
Chief of Radiation Physics
AdventHealth Parker, USA
Michael Tallhamer (00:03):
Good morning everyone. I guess it’s morning there. Evening here. I’m Michael Tallhamer. I’m the chief physicist for an organization called AdventHealth in the Rocky Mountain region. I’m based here in Denver, Colorado which is a beautiful place, but I’m unfortunately not able to be with you today. I’d love coming to your area of the world. One of my favourite places, and I’m just disappointed I couldn’t get there this year. But I’ll be talking today at least in this first talk, about changing our perspective on SGRT expanding what we call the SGRT Umwelt with DoseRT, which is Cherenkov Imaging Based Technology. We’re going to discuss some of our early findings, some value propositions for the technology and some clinical use cases. Cherenkov imaging is I think, is fairly well understood what you see, if you could see the background of my slide here I don’t know if sometimes they subtract them out, but if you’re seeing two particles passing each other what you’re seeing is a finite element simulation of what Cherenkov imaging is. It’s essentially a particle travelling faster than the speed of light in a given medium, at some point in the middle of the screen there, you’ll see a shock wave produce, and the emission spectrum is the yellow orange that you’re seeing there. And the DoseRT product is taking advantage of this effect, and it’s a technology that we’ve had within our clinics here now for a little over a year and a half here in Colorado, and then at one of our Florida facilities in Celebration Florida which is just outside of Orlando AdventHealth has a second system now of DoseRT, and we’ve been working together with the celebration team to put together some case studies and also with some of the people within Cherenkov what they’re calling Cherenkov Consortium or Imaging Consortium looking at different applications of Cherenkov imaging. Before we start, these are my disclosures. Parker Colorado has PSA with Vision RT. We have a COE site, which is our celebration facility, which happens to have the DoseRT as well. And then I am a physics consultant. I provide physics consultation services to a variety of different vendors. These two vendors are typically the two vendors that you will see in any of my talks for SGRT. So those are listed there. And then credit for this simulation goes to Nils Bergland, who produced the finite element analysis to show how Cherenkov imaging takes place. I tend to and tell someone a particle travels faster than the speed of light in a room full of physicists, sometimes I get the side eye. So I’m, this is just proof if the math works out.
Michael Tallhamer (02:38):
AdventHealth we’re a fairly large organization. We’re 52 campuses across nine states. 11,000 plus beds at this point. This is a little bit older slide, and as I said, two facilities, one in Colorado, which is where I’m at today. And then one in Florida that just has this, I believe they’re going on about nine months of having the system as well and doing incredibly good work with the system down there in Florida, the technology comes out of Dartmouth, which is in New Hampshire, which is up here in New England. And some of the cases you’ll see here are publications from Dartmouth as well, but the majority will be just some of our clinical cases and what we’re doing with the technology within AdventHealth itself.
Michael Tallhamer (03:26):
Before we get started to define the term Umwelt, the reason why I like this term is it’s an organism’s unique sensory perception of the world. And it depends on how it detects and interprets that. It used to be something that’s common in medicine that we’re familiar with the idea that we’re made of these large, biologically significant molecules. It’s now part of kind of everyday common practice society, at least Western societies are very well versed in this. We’re bathed in this. We have commercials about this stuff all the time. But what we often as scientists look at is those large biological molecules are made up of smaller constituent molecules or smaller constituent atoms. This is the very first published photo of a hydrogen atoms orbital structure of electrons using what’s called quantum microscopy. We have expanded our Umwelt as scientists and clinicians to look down into ever and ever more finer structures of the objects we’re looking to look at. And so we can see things down to these orbital structures. I think this is actually the small structure. I think we’ve been able to image, truly image we can detect subatomic particles, but to actually image something. I believe this is one of the smallest things. And then if we are used to looking into telescopes, I love going out to your neck of the woods, New Zealand and Australia, and getting kind of away from the cities and being able to see the stars in the Milky Way. It’s something that I’ve always liked doing as a scientist and someone who used to take you know, pride in being in deep space imaging physics. We are acutely aware that we’re embedded in a system of much larger things, but our perception is unique in that we have a very narrow band of perception. And our narrow band of perception allows us to see the world in, you know, just one level of detail. And we create tools that allow us to see it in other details. And that’s what we’re doing with our and SGRT.
Michael Tallhamer (05:18):
SGRT Umwelt is being expanded by using a technology similar to what I described to people as the Hubble Deep Field experiments that we did in the early two thousands. We took the Hubble telescope, we pointed it at what we called an empty portion of the sky that area of the sky as far as size-wise, if you held up a pencil at arm’s length and pointed it to the sky, the size of the area of the sky we were looking at was about the size of the pencil lead. And we exposed the Hubble telescope over and over and over and over and again to this area of the sky. And then we, those images after a number of months, what we found out, that empty area of the sky was not as empty as we expected. And everyone at this point, because I can’t see the crowd is probably wondering, like, I think this guy’s at the wrong conference. This has nothing to do with SGRT. But this is exactly what we’re doing with DoseRT. We are essentially pointing cameras with image intensifiers at an area isocenter essentially, and the areas around the isocenter and collecting the photons that are emitted from our patients for free during the radiation delivery process. And now we’re trying to process that image and use some insights from that data collected.
Michael Tallhamer (06:18):
So the goal of this presentation is more or less to share the example use cases of Cherenkov imaging focusing more on clinical applications of the software as it’s currently encompasses the quality and safety applications, the visualization of stray dose that we’re finding. And then some of the plan robustness evaluations that we’re doing, and the implications of how Cherenkov imaging can be used to recommend clinical changes in our practice. We’re also going to discuss the difference between the data that we’re collecting and the insights that we gain and the challenge interpreting this kind of data from a clinical perspective on a day-to-day basis, trying to make heads or tails out of what we’re looking at.
Michael Tallhamer (06:56):
So we’re going to delve right into quality and safety, and you’ll see a lot of these cases are going to cross over into a number of these categories. I’ve broken them up just simply because it makes it a little bit easier for us to kind of look at different aspects of what we’re looking at. The basic value proposition for us is that you can see the delivery of the dose. And so what we see here in the upper left is a standard 3D T spine. We have an upper esophageal case in 3D. This is an IMRT VMAT partial breast. This is a VMAT delivery of a recurrent head and neck. We’re looking at an IMRT static field, IMRT, delivery of a nodal SBRT, and then a VMAT delivery of a flank sarcoma. So you can see the visualization spans a large variety of different body sites at different techniques and things that we’re doing. And so the utilization as far as looking at the geographic placement of the dose has some utility just in of itself. That’s our basic value proposition.
Michael Tallhamer (07:54):
If we look at this, this is a case that I, this is one of the first cases I’ve ever presented. I believe I even presented this last year when I was talking about early findings. This is the only technology where you can take a plan and look at the region where the dose should be. This is the live view that the dosimetrist is seeing during delivery. So you can see the deposition of the dose live in video format, and then come back to this dose and look at this and evaluate that dose for a ppropriateness to see if there’s any challenges. That’s the dose going where we would expect it to be and start using this technology as a way to solve problems. So in this case, this is a 36-year-old female. If you were really astute and looked at the very first few frames of the video, there was this flash of dose across both breasts. This was actually the most common error found after we implemented the technology, was the fact that this is a manually selected port film technique. They selected the pelvis port film technique by mistake. It’s one entry above the breast port film technique, and it was just an errant click inside of Aria. We’ve been able to identify this. This is one monitor unit delivered through a 22 through 40 field. And we were able to find this and then put administrative controls in place to, to eliminate this. There’s no hard stop for this. We thought we had eliminated this air from our centers. And then many months ago I think three or four months ago at this point, maybe five months ago at this point, we upgraded to TrueBeam 4.1. And when we upgraded to TrueBeam 4.1, this problem mysteriously started appearing on all of our patients again. And we thought, well, maybe this is out of practice. We have new therapists, maybe something went down. We started looking into it and found that there’s actually a bug in the 4.1 upgrade for the TrueBeam, and that it actually ignored the jaw settings for all of our port film techniques. So all of our port films were being opened to 22 by 40 in the case of a HDMLC linac. And so we were able to report this to Variant, but this was immediately caught on the very first day after the import. And we had done all of our testing. We had done all of our validation and commissioning over the weekend, but we had not taken ports on anything because we typically don’t port film our phantoms. And so this was immediately caught, identified, and reported just by using the Cherenkov imaging system.
Michael Tallhamer (10:00):
This is a 67-year-old female prone breast. Prone breasts are pretty common error centers. The first two fractions look like what you see here on the left. Nothing to really note decent dose distribution, exactly what we’d expect to see from the treatment plan. And then on fraction three, we found this. And this ended up being a patient who has back pain issues. She doesn’t have a bad back, but she back pain issues and in an effort to help support her weight on her shoulders rather than on her back, because she’s relatively stretched out, if you look in this view, she pulled her elbows down and actually dislodged this cushion from the index bar. You can see some dose Cherenkov imaging dose that’s coming off the pad and then also exiting dose through her upper arm. This was identified immediately by the therapist after treating the medial field. We were brought in as the physics team went into investigate what was going on, found the issue, helped her out, supported her back, got her back to being comfortable, and was able to successfully deliver the rest of the treatment without any issues. This was corrected for all subsequent fractions. And so what we’re finding is that most of the issues that we’re finding with this technology are in the first one to five fractions. The errors that they catch tend to be planned robustness issues or body habitus or compliance issues. And we can address those very early on before we start seeing problems.
Michael Tallhamer (11:15):
A good example of this, this is day one of a high tangent breast. This patient was verbally given instructions multiple times to raise her chin because she’s getting these high tangents postural video immediately identified that her head was in the wrong position. She refused to comply. And then after the first field, we were called to the machine, looked at the composite image and sure enough, we can see dose on the patient’s chin. What we weren’t expecting to find was this error. So because she’s doing this body crunch and because of her body habitus and this role of bubble wrap, she’s actually, as she’s doing this body crunch, she’s pushing breast tissue outside the inferior border of the field. And so while we were looking to address this, we actually found another plan robustness problem. And so this was not apparent in the plan. This error, obviously, she was stretched out in the plan. She wasn’t crunched up like this. And so we actually adjusted the inferior field border to include all of the breast tissue and some margin just simply because we could not ensure that she would be compliant for all subsequent fractions. So we increased the robustness of the plan. We addressed this with the patient. The physician actually wanted to show her the consequence of tucking her chin. She was able to see what it was doing, and she was very compliant after that as far as raising her chin and keeping it out of these high tangents. And so multiple factors identified. Some we anticipated others we didn’t, but, and some we were able to address from a planning perspective.
Michael Tallhamer (12:38):
Stray dose visualization is something that we see often in our clinics. Not often that we see it, but we’re also looking for it. So we’re trying to create plans that will not have that. And you’ll see kind of consequences of that here in a moment. This is it out of the original publications that came out of Dr. Jarvis’s group showing that the AlignRT tolerances were within tolerance, but this patient who could not raise their arm showed even though they were intolerance, some contralateral breast dose on two days, some ipsilateral shoulder dose on a couple other days, showing that maybe your SGRT tolerances, if they’re statistically derived, are only good for a certain set of population of patients, and that you may have patients that live in the tails of those distribution. A good example of that, just some, some general errors, not necessarily a AlignRT tolerance issue is, in this case from our Florida facility. These two on the right one is it’s just skimming the contralateral breast. And you can see some dose to that contralateral breast with small degrees of roll. Here’s another planning problem where the angulation of the treatment field treating this photon cavity boost after whole breast radiation was not angled in a way. And it’s actually skimming the contralateral breast. And this had to be addressed from a planning perspective. And then this in the middle is one that I have shown in the past. This is one of our very first patients who had a PAB in super clave delivering this field super clave. This was her first day. She had some pretty brisk reactions under her arm. And we were trying to figure out in her last few fractions what was causing this because. All of her port films look great. Everything looked fantastic. Her SDRT tolerances were always in. And on the second day, we monitored her. We saw this, and this is a function of a small half a degree of roll and the steep slope of the reconstruction of her chest wall with this expander. So a small degree of roll, even though we only allow for one degree that half a degree was old enough to allow for this to flash onto that steep slope. And the other interesting factor is this is a midpoint control point. So if we were to look at this using the light field before delivery, if she was rolled, the first control point was smaller than this, so we wouldn’t have seen this even with the light field. And so this is another indication where Cherenkov imaging is actually providing a glimpse into these mid treatment control points, which we’ll see in a little bit of how the significant those midpoint control points could be. But those are not accessible to us at the start of delivery.
Michael Tallhamer (14:59):
This is another case like that. This is from our Florida facility extremely large treatment volume, standard chest wall, we thought, and then comes back with this extensive volume and involving skin, going all the way up into the underarm and treating contralateral node volumes. It was decided that they wanted to treat this VMAT because of the large shape and kind of disparate regions of delivery that needed to happen. If you look at the CT is really nothing of node CT started and stopped, kind of where we always would expect. But if you’re looking closely, you can kind of see what may be happening here.
Michael Tallhamer (15:32):
On the very first day, on an effort of that VMAT to treat to this high arm volume, you can see it’s going through the arm, but then exiting out the shoulder, entering the face, and exiting out the contralateral side of the face, the CT ends at the chin. So this was not something they saw at the treatment plan. But immediately on the first day of treatment, it was evident that there was dose that was exiting the face. Another midpoint control point shows a significant dose up underneath the CHA or cheekbone. And so again, something that was not accessible in the treatment plan, but very obvious on DoseRT, when you’re looking at the Cherenkov imaging.
Michael Tallhamer (16:10):
This is one where we’re prospectively looking to avoid the ipsilateral limb. She has a frozen shoulder and frozen elbow. So her arm is permanently in this position. We had to optimize to a partial bolus field, so she was simed with this bolus. So we’re concerned about making sure the bolus is in the right position because the optimized fluence accounts for that bolus position. And so we can watch during delivery to make sure we don’t see dose on the ipsilateral arm. We can look at the composite imaging to make sure that there’s no additional dose on the arm. We can look at a specialized rendering of the CT that we can do and look at basically, this is a projection of the surface dose onto that rendering to see, you know, roughly where we can expect to see Cherenkov signal.
Michael Tallhamer (16:52):
And then we can also blend this using some camera magic and some Python code. We can look at where her ear lobes, her chin, her ipsilateral and contralateral shoulders, her ipsilateral arm, all of these things are being lined with postural video. So we would expect a very high degree of coincidence between all of these structures. And so we can continue to monitor this proactively every day to make sure that we’re delivering this static field IMRT in an efficient but effective way as well.
Michael Tallhamer (17:19):
And that brings us to plan robustness. Plan robustness is something that we are really stressing because of this technology we’re seeing little things that can be tweaked and made better because of the Cherenkov imaging on our patients. And so we’re actively trying to look at how to translate the knowledge of the complexity of what we’re doing in a plan to the therapy staff who’s actually delivering this. Because we’re not just taking into account structures that are at isocenter, we’re taking into account the entire patient’s anatomy in many cases, using things like avoidance sectors and things like no entrance, no exit structures. And those things need to be in the same position as the time of sim. So they get the benefit of those optimizations at the time of delivery.
Michael Tallhamer (18:00):
And so we look at something here, this is an earlier version of the software. So you’ll see a single view, and there’s two camera views here. And so you’ll see the therapist kind of clicking between the two. And this is postural video down here. So very small, hard to see. But this is no longer the version that we have. But they’re oscillating back and forth to make sure they can see dose, but also that they’re not seeing contralateral limb dose. And we were doing this to kind of teach them, because this plan is a thigh sarcoma treated with VMAT. And we could not get this limb out of the path of the arcs. Obviously, physician didn’t want to do static field. The patient had a bunch of other contraindications, very high pain, a lot of other things, wanted this delivery to be as quick as possible, wanted VMAT. And so we were told them like, we’re, we’re going to be using avoidance sector, please, you know, make sure that the contralateral limb is accounted for. After 30 fractions as a kind of a post audit, we found four fractions where there was some or some significant in this case, contralateral limb dose. And the reason for that is as we planned it with the, the legs kind of scissored out in this kind of frog legged setup we are using an avoidance sector. And the avoidance sector is pie-shaped. So it’s taking a sector out of the arc. And as these legs come back together, there’s those legs come back together, you’re moving that thigh into the narrow area of that avoidance sector. And if that’s not communicated to the therapist and they’re focused solely on the ipsilateral affected limb, you could easily move a, a structure that was used during optimization to avoid, but move it into an area where it’s receiving dose. And we found four fractions where we saw at least some detectable dose on the contralateral limb where postural video, maybe because it was smaller, maybe because it wasn’t being paid attention to, was not heated when the legs started to creep in. And if you look at you kind of the position from the central knee cushion to here versus this one, you can kind of see as it gets closer to that central area that it’s getting more and more dose. This is something that we’re now working on, make more robust as far as planning maybe a little bit wider avoidance sectors, but also conveying that information, Hey, this plan is using a no entrance, no exit on this structure. You need to make sure that the structure that’s far from isocenter we’re not involved in the treatment is also in the right position before and during treatment we need to do that. We know the ipsilateral leg was in the field correctly and that it was aligned appropriately because had it been moved out and violated the SGRT tolerances, the beam would’ve been turned off and that there was no indication of any gating during any of these deliveries.
Michael Tallhamer (20:28):
Here’s just a prospective avoidance of previously treated areas. This is another rendering that we can do via some Python code of the surface of the patient with previously treated upper lip and left cheek. We’re now treating the bridge of nose and nasal sept with a custom bolus. And we really, because we took these to 54 gray, are really concerned more of this region leaking down into the lip that was treated about six to nine months prior, making sure that this area, both that the bolus is in the right position, but also that the dose is not creeping into that previously treated area given the very tight margins that we’re dealing with. So very easy to provide these renderings to the therapist part of their setup images that show up right on the TrueBeam when they’re setting them up, and then also are available to them on the console while they’re delivering. Watching the DoseRT system monitored the dose for delivery. This one’s for the physicist in the room.
Michael Tallhamer (21:18):
This is a retreat head and neck that previously went to seven gray head floor of mouth recurrence. This was turf dust by the university. Very high modulation factor for these fields trying to avoid the parotid in the oral cavity that had been taken to previous tolerance dose. And so with the geometry issues in the head of the machine, we wanted to make sure that we didn’t see scattered dose underneath the wide jaws because the high modulation factor. So we just essentially ran the plan prior to physician review on Cherenkov emitting plate so that we can make sure that there was no dose due to the high modulation factor. It passed that we had the physician review, it ran a standard QA, and then we were able during delivery to three dimensionally verify that those avoidance sectors were not being violated because of these parotids. And the oral cavity had been taken essentially to full dose with the initial 70 grade treatment. So now we have multiple stages of QA in the plan prior to the physician review after the physician to make sure the dose is correct and then on the patient from day to day to make sure that the delivery is what we had intended.
Michael Tallhamer (22:18):
This is a planning technique valuation. We saw this breast boost that looked like we had some dose creeping over in the contralateral breast. Doesn’t look like a lot, but this is an arc-based treatment that is fairly well-loved by our physicians. And so we do this because it’s their preference over photon-electron mixed boosts. And so we started looking at this from not just a composite dose, but what is going on during delivery. So we can go back to these videos and look at the first field, nothing of note, the arc starts coming over the top of the patient. Everything looks relatively good, but what we shouldn’t see is what we’re about to see. And so here we see this dose tracking across the contralateral breast. And again, an avoidance sector that was not opened up far enough for the projection of the cavity resulted in the dose turning on long before it had cleared the contralateral breast.
Michael Tallhamer (23:04):
This was not seen in the planning system. This is another dose interpretation thing. This was not seen because of the rendering issues with Eclipse. If you change this, you lose some detail, but if you change this to a fractional dose rendering rather than a complete dose rendering, so the total dose, you can actually see these low dose regions that are across the contralateral breast and should have been picked up during a physics check. So taught us that there was some limitations within our treatment planning system as well and in interpreting the imaging that they were giving us.
Michael Tallhamer (23:34):
And finally, data interpretation. This is a breath-hold VMAT delivery breast that presented at our celebration facility with an unexplained hole in the Cherenkov signal. We turned this over after much deliberation to Cherenkov imaging consortium users as well, to kind of give us an idea of what could be causing this. They had the CT, they recommended that she has an expander and thought maybe the port was causing this, but the port is not in that plane. And so we went back and forth. SGRT tolerances tended to make the hole maybe slightly smaller, a different shape. And so it came down to a thresholding thing. The hypothesis was the thresholding of the dose signal because it was a low dose area that it was just taking it out. And we just was, we weren’t seeing it, unfortunately.
Michael Tallhamer (24:16):
A couple months later, another patient presented this time with no expander and another hole inexplicably that changed size slightly from day to day. This was sent from celebration to Colorado for like a secondary physics review because it’s a new technology. They wanted someone else to review it. I was reviewing the actual treatment plan instead of just Cherenkov imaging and found that the plan did not use flash. Unfortunately, it wasn’t using flash, and we always used flash, so that seemed odd to me. And then on top of that, the SGRT tolerances were three millimeters. So the hypothesis was that we were allowing the chest wall to excurs to exceed the field edge, and that’s what was producing this hole.
New Speaker (24:54):
So to test this hypothesis, we created an original plan. The original plan was already done. We created a plan with flash, and then we also used TLDs in the indicated hole from the Cherenkov imaging to see if there was a decrease in dose from the expected. Those TLDs came back while we were doing this plan in just 24 hours, showing that it was a 30 to 40 centigrade per fraction, or a seven to 11 grade reduction in dose in that region of the field due to the fact that the edge of the field was, or the chest wall was going beyond the edge of the field.
Michael Tallhamer (25:24):
And so we immediately switched over the flash plan, reran TLDs in that same region, and the TLDs came back within one to 2% of the expected dose. And so a slight misinterpretation of the shrink data on the first patient resulted in a second patient with a similar problem, which really required us to reevaluate and actually get a second set of eyes, which is why we work so closely with our sister site in Florida to make sure that we’re interpreting this data because it is new to all of us correctly and with the right intent.
Michael Tallhamer (25:52):
This study is out for publication now, showing the utility of Cherenkov imaging in rapid de-escalation of dose and escalation of dose from the Cherenkov imaging being identified. This is another one that should be going to publication soon.
Michael Tallhamer (26:09):
This was presented to me because of that poll in the dose we have a small breasted patient with a fairly large seroma. I was called to the machine because of a cold spot in the dose distribution. And that cold spot you can see right here, that cold spot was feared to be a hole because again, left-sided breast patient DIBH. But upon investigating a number of our similar breast patients, all these are very young breast patients. These seromas are visible in the images themselves. And so the composite images, we typically, if we have a very, very large seroma, we will evaluate those seromas via a CT to see if we need to replan these for our boosts. That does unfortunately require a young patient, oftentimes in their thirties to receive another chest CT to get a new plan. We’re looking at the utility of the Cherenkov imaging to actually flag us for seroma changes rather than using a cone beam CT or a diagnostic CT through the entire chest cavity and contralateral breast for these young patients to potentially flag us that maybe that’s needed before we just proactively give it to them to see if it’s needed. And so, maybe an interesting application, probably not the primary application, but something that for us at least should be investigated at some point because we can actually detect changes in these seromas from these images.
Michael Tallhamer (27:31):
So with that in summary for AdventHealth Cherenkov imaging in addition to SGRT is really clinically improving our quality and safety. It allows us to really rapidly address issues that we’re having with any of our patients, whether it’s a compliance or body habitus issue or just a plan robustness issue, something we didn’t account for during our planning process. It provides us a way to detect unexpected straight doses things like that, VMAT that was beyond the edge of the CT, and then provides a way to evaluate plan robustness. So we’re now really actively looking at how do we communicate our planning techniques to our therapist to make sure that the appropriateness of the setup matches the assumptions made during these planning processes. And then the Cherenkov imaging can be used to recommend and aiding treatment plan adjustments depending on if the field edge needs to be dropped. If we maybe have a chin or a compliance issue, maybe we need to open or shrink down a field. And then the Cherenkov imaging data itself while it can improve your quality of treatment and delivery, it does need to be heated in the data interpretation. The data is there, the interpretation is kind of where I think we as a physics group probably need to provide some guidance and help people with that interpretation into the future.
